John Vincent Senior

126 Lower Street
New Street

Occupation: Minister of the Congregational Church

According to the 1841 census John was not born in Kent so it is an educated guess that he was born and baptised in 1776 in the parish of All Hallows The Great in London which once stood on what is now Upper Thames Street. Given that the father’s name on this baptism record is also John and that our John Vincent’s second marriage took place in the nearby All Hallows Church on Lombard Street, London makes this guess at least a reasonable probability.  

Why John decided to leave the Church of England and train to be a minister in the Congregational Church is not known but we find him listed in The American Quarterly Register. This publication lists the Congregational and Presbyterian ministers, or as many as it could find, where they resided and the year and college that they trained at. John, we are told trained at Highbury College from 1797 under the Reverends R Simpson and G Collinson. By 1800 John was on supply at Deal’s Old Congregational Chapel known then as the ‘Meeting House’. He was finally ordained on 14 July 1802.

Top part of Marriage Licence dated the day before the marriage took place.

Highbury College at the time John attended was in Hoxton in the East End of London near Shoreditch which is where John must have met his first wife Elizabeth Thompson. They married by license in St. Leonard’s, Shoreditch on the 16 April 1801. John, their first child, was born in Deal on 15 April the following year.
The couple were then living in 125 Lower Street and we have a very good description of the property as it was in July 1804 when the Freehold went up for auction.

Kentish Gazette – Friday 20 July 1804

A William White may have bought the Freehold as in 1826 it is again up for sale due to his bankruptcy in connection with the failing of the bank owned by him and his copartners John May, James Wyborn and John Mercer. William White was one of the chief benefactors that enabled the building of the new Congregational Chapel in 1803.

Throughout their marriage, Elizabeth seemed to be almost permanently pregnant having nine children in twelve years. Sadly, John, their first child had died soon after his birth in 1802. Elizabeth herself died on the 11 October 1815 leaving John with eight young children and a parish to care for.

Elizabeth Cole, John’s second wife, may have been a family friend. There is an Elizabeth Cole being baptised in 1788 in the parish All Hallows and registered as a non-conformist but this, like with Johns baptism, is just guesswork.

They too were married by license on the 18 July 1816 at the church of All Hallow on Lombard Street, London. The marriage register, however, appears to be incorrect as it says John is ‘of this parish’ and Elizabeth of Deal!

The couple continued to live in the Lower Street house and go on to have four children there. Mary their eldest is possibly named for Elizabeth’s mother. Then in 1826 the property, as already explained, goes up for sale. John then moves with his family to New Street.

In 1839 Elizabeth dies while she is staying on the Isle of Wight at Cowes. Why she is there is not known.

South Eastern Gazette – Tuesday 27 August 1839

John continues to live and work in Deal until his own death in 1848. It must be assumed that he was buried in the burial ground of the church that he saw being built and preached at for over forty years. The stone plaque to the left of the main entrance of the former new Congregational Church now called Landmark Centre bares his name. This was once on the Sunday School Building of the Congregational Church.

A model of The Congregational Church was made by James Richard Apps who had married John’s grand daughter Martha in 1868. More images of the model can be found on his page.

Name Born Baptised Married Died Buried
John Vincent 22 January 1776 ? 18 February 1776
All Hallows The Great, Upper Thames Street London ?
1) Elizabeth Thompson
16 April 1801
St Leonard, Shoreditch, Hackney, EnglandBorn
Died 1815
Deal2) Elizabeth Cole
18 July 1816
All Hallow’s, Lombard Street, London

Born 1788?
Died 1839
Cowes, Isle of Wight

1848
Deal

The Children of John Vincent & Elizabeth Caller

Name Born Baptised Married Died Buried
John 15 April 1802 18 July 1802
Congregational Church
1802
Deal
Elizabeth 12 May 1803 12 June 1803
Congregational Church
Frederick Langham
11 September 1831
St. Leonard’s Church
Sophia 15 July 1804 19 August 1804
Congregational Church
Unmarried 1883
Ormskirk District of Lancashire
John 22 October 1805 25 January 1806
Congregational Church
Martha Brudenell
10 October 1833
St. Leonard’s
1851
Deal
Samuel 22 August 1807 27 September 1809
Congregational Church
Robert 1 February 1809 12 March 1809
Congregational Church
1832
Deal
Selina 6 March 1811 7 April 1811
Congregational Church
Edwin Webb
1845
Martha 13 September 1812 18 October 1812
Congregational Church
1815
Hannah 12 August 1814 18 September 1814
Congregational Church

The Children of John Gold Vincent & Elizabeth Cole

Name Born Baptised Married Died Buried
Mary 6 February 1818 7 March 1819
Congregational Church
George Cox
5 September 1849
Congregational Church
1904 Ormskirk District of Lancashire
James 21 August 1821 16 September 1821
Congregational Church
Mary Sheldon
17 October 1853
Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
2 December 1899
Tabor, Mills County, Iowa, United States
Tabor Cemetery
Edwin 21 May 1823 19 June 1823
Congregational Church
Ellen Green
1853
West Derby District of Lancashire
Joseph 19 October 1825 27 November 1825
Congregational Church
Unmarried September 1847

Census

Year Address Name Number of Males Number of Females
1801
1811
1821 Lower Street John Vincent
1831

Census

Year Address Name Relationship Occupation
1841 New Street John Head Independent Minister
Joseph Son
Mary Daughter
Mary Soames
Sources and further reading:
The American Quarterly Register, Volume 9 1837
Congregational Church model images courtesy of Deal Town Hall
The History of Deal by Stephen Pritchard 1864
Newspaper image © The British Library Board. All rights reserved.
With thanks to The British Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk